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gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:
>> I'm asserting here that the "having" of faith is an action
>> by man in accordance with the 1st Table. I sure can't tell
>> the difference between "having faith" and obeying the 1st
>> Commandment.
>
> Greetings Bart:
>
> Why just the 1st table or 1 commandent?
Who said "just".
> In my mind there is a vast (no infinite) difference between keeping
> this commandment, (or the keeping of any commandment perfectly),
> and God telling us in the gospel,
That's not the difference I pointed up. I said that I can't
tell the difference between having faith and obeying the 1st
Commandment. Obeying the 1st Commandment IS having faith.
I'm challenging you to differentiate between these two
actions of man. Your response is to differentiate between
an action of man and an action of God.
Bart
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Were the OT saints saved like we are today?
" The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation,
and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of
Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here. " --- Matt. 12:41
It seems obvious from this statement by the Lord that the Gentiles
referred to will be with us in Glory. They were SAVED.
How were they saved? Doesn't the Lord tell us very explicitly
how they were saved?
"Because THEY repented at the preaching of Jonah."
What was the preaching of Jonah? And who was Jonah, anyway?
"And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he
cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be
overthrown." --- Jonah 3:4
That's it! That is the totality of the essence of Jonah's entire
message (compare, similarly, the message that Cornelius and his
household got from Peter, in Acts 10). No Gospel; no doctrine;
no hope given; no instructions as to how they might avoid the
catastrophe; and in fact, nothing whatsoever about Eternity
(which wasn't even the issue). You might say, "well, just
because it isn't included in the record doesn't mean that that's
all Jonah told them." If you say that, you need to read the
sequel to see that what I said is indeed the case:
"So the people of Nineveh believed God, "
How did they know that the Words of this scroungy Jonah were GOD
speaking? Maybe the same way we know that the 66 Books we call
the Bible are the Word of God? "The HOLY Scriptures?" --- Rom
1:2. Like John 10:27-28? Like "never man spake