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wrf3@stablecross.com (Bob Felts) writes:
>Stephen M. Adams wrote:
>> wrf3@stablecross.com (Bob Felts) writes:
>> >Bob Felts wrote:
>> >>Stephen M. Adams wrote:
>> >>> Bart Goddard writes:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >>>In the phrases "Scripture alone", "Faith alone", and "Grace alone",
>> >>> >>>"alone" means "only".
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Either undersrtanding of the word 'alone' fails the consistency
>> >>> >> test, since the Scriptures don't teach it!
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Who knows what you mean by "the consistency test"? It's certainly
>> >>> >internally consistant in itself and it's certainly consistence with
>> >>> >Scripture, since the very doctrine "Sola Scriptura" means "You have
>> >>> >to be consistent with Scripture.
>> >>>
>> >>> One cannot be "consistent with Scripture" and teach that Scripture is
>> >>> the sole source of doctrine. The Scriptures themselves refute that
>> >>> notion.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Just curious, but what is your take on 1 Cor 4:6?
>>
>> It certainly does not mean that only the Scriptures are a valid source
>> for doctrine - after all, that would have Paul contradicting himself!
>
>I understand that. I didn't ask what it did not mean, I asked what you
>thought it meant. For example, do you think that it puts limits on how
>far tradition can "wander"?

Scripture already does that - after all, it is the measuring stick.
What we object to is the statement that dogma may *only* be derived
from Scripture. Nothing of what we teach contradicts the Scriptures.

Fundamentally, the Scriptures must be read in context - and that context
is the witness of the church.

>>>Also, a follow up question, if I may:
>>>
>>>What doctrine(s) do you hold which are supported only by tradition?
>>
>>All of them. Tradition is the sum-total of the knowledge of the
>>Church - it includes the Scriptures, the parctices, the exegesis,
>>etc. There is nothing *except* tradition.
>
>So if I were stranded on an island with nothing but the Scriptures, I
>would be totally lost?

That's up to God, not to me. Orthodoxy does not teach that God sends
the non-orthodox to hell. Orthodoxy is the *fullness* of the faith,
but that does not mean that there is not truth elsewhere - though it
may be darker shadows of the truth...

-Stephen
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