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In post 363869767A69@srcbs.org> Bart whines:


> There are a lot better trolls on USENET than you.
>

Ahmm... you're the one resurrected this thread.


> Yes, the verse is clear. It's clear that the word
> "and" does not appear.
>

Golly gee, Perfesser, how clever, uncanny, bright,
and brainy and alert and reliably pointless you are.
Another big DUH for Dr. Obvious.


> It says nothing like "faith is the following two things",
>

Goodness gracious, now you would deny the author
of Hebrews who says _exactly such a thing_, i.e.

Now faith is
[1] the assurance of things hoped for,
[2] the conviction of things not seen.

You can stomp your feet, shake your fist, and hold
your breath 'til you turn blue or the cows come home,
but that won't change Scripture.

> but instead clarifies "the assurance of things hoped
> for" with "the conviction of things not seen."
>

The verse edifies "faith" by describing two aspects
of faith. They do not define one another but rather the
subject, which is faith. Nor is there any claim by the
author that these two facets, much less only one,
encompass the whole of faith.

Only you make that claim of exclusivity, and that from
but a portion of Hebrews 11:1. This is your decree:

> The contrapositive to that statement is "Conviction of
> things seen is not faith."
> So if you've _seen_ something, your conviction of
> it is not faith.
>

The Scriptures make no such claim. At the very least,
you're attempting to portray your point as the equal of
Scripture. When you simply ignore Scriptures, such as
the first aspect of faith in Heb. 11:1, or those contrary
to your point, Luke 24 and John 20 for example, you
imply that your point is, in fact, far superior to Scripture.
But in so doing you commit violence against those
very Scriptures. You speak alone as the antithesis
of Holy Writ.


> Everyone know it.
>

You say "everyone", doubtless a gargantuan cadre
of your shady supporters, yet I don't see anyone in
this NG, much less everyone rushing to your defense.

I suspect the reason is that they're wise to your ways,
your methodology, which is merely to deny; deny and
distract, deny and dodge, deny and deviate, like a child
caught with his hand in the cookie jar still hoping in vain
that he won't be found out.


> Even you.
>

You're wrong again, as usual.


>> Again you put on display your own astonishing lack
>> of comprehension. The very author of Hebrews
>> rebuts your opinion. Had you bothered to read the
>> author's argument in chapter