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In article <083.48.12.05.290411000@srcbs.org>, tuppence says...
>

[snip]

>In light of your discussion, what do any of you make of
>Jesus' story of poor Lazarus and the rich man (Lk 16)?

What does the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus have to do with whether or not
Enoch died? I don't see a connection; Enoch was clearly an exceptional case, not
an ordinary one.


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Subudcat se sibi ut haereat Deo
quidquid boni habet, tribuat illi a quo factus est.
(St. Augustine, Ser. 96)

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"Bart Goddard" wrote in message
news:147.11.17.05.643218000@srcbs.org...
>
>
> gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:
>
> >> > That is, Is something good just because God said it, (Voluntarism)
> >> > or Does God say something because it is good. (Essentialism)
> >>
> >> Did God create the universe, or is He subject to it?
> >
> > What does this have to do with the price of tea in China?
>
> It's obvious. You have a God who is subject to His own creation.

No. God is independent, hence He cannot be subject to anything
outside Himself.

> He does things beCAUSE they are good. See the word "cause"?
> The a thing's goodness binds your God.

This is within Himself, and has nothing to do with creation.

> A true omnipotent God defines good because He IS Good.

I would say that a truly good God defines good because He IS Good.
He is truth.

A being COULD be omnipotent and evil.

Such a theoretical being is the god of Calvinism.

Gary


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Matthew Johnson wrote:

> No. The warning in Revelation applies ONLY to the Book of Revelation. There is
> no sound reason for claiming that it applies to the whole Bible, since it was an
> independent volume at the time.

But Matthew, you would agree, would you not, that one should
Not change any book of the Bible?

Gary

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gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:


>> It's pretty clear that it's the other way round. I've
> been
>> very clear about the problem with your doctrine: "Free
> will
>> choices" are obedience to the First Commandm