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Gary McNees wrote:
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> > Gary McNees wrote:


> > > Where people have plainly mutilated God's word, such
> > > as has been done in the New World Translation, even
> > > a child can see the deceit, lies, and errors.
> >
> >
> > I don't think it is deceit and lies only there may be errors, but
> > honest errors.
>
> George, have you actually studied the NWT, to see where the
> changes have been made?



Gary and Matthew:

Somehow I did not read carefully and was thinking about other
translations. I am not familiar with the New World Translation, and
you two may well be right. And, probably are.

I was thinking of the NIV, KJV and many early "copies" of the NT Greek,
where I think the mistranslations and poor translations were accidental
or attempts to "correct" the earlier manuscripts.

Please excuse me for my error.

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Gary McNees wrote:

> "Bob Felts" wrote in message
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> >
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> >
> > Which has nothing to do with what you said. This discusses God's will
> > concerning creation. Your statement talked about God's will in relation
> > to Himself.
> >
> > If you claim that God cannot will to change His nature then God does not
> > have free will. The conclusion is inescapable given your premise.
>
> I believe you are mistaken.

Why am I not surprised?

> Of course God cannot will to change His nature.

So there are some things that God _cannot_ will, therefore His will
isn't free.

> Any change in God would be for the worse since God is perfect. In fact,
> since God has willed all that He ever will in eternity, He will not change
> His will in anything.
> But this does not prove that God does not have free will.
>

How can a will that is constrained be free?

> "Classical theists point out that what is willed freely can also be
> necessary. Antecedent necessity that would eliminate free will differs from
> consequent necessity. God's will has antecedent freedom. He could have done
> otherwise.

You undercut your own argument because you agree that there are some
things where God _could not_ have done otherwise.

[...]

>
> As to how free will can be identical to God's un