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In article <150.47.00.05.684757000@srcbs.org>, Bob Felts says...

>Matthew Johnson wrote:

[snip]

>> >> First of all, you miss the point. It proves that it IS possible
>> >> to resist the Holy Spirit. This is enough to disprove the'I' in
>> >> TULIP.

>> >I did not say that it wasn't possible to resist the Spirit.

>> Yes, you did. You have _frequently_ described yourself as believing
>> in all but the 'L' of TULIP. But the 'I' _does_ mean "irresistable
>> grace".

>> Stop equivocating. Or have you finally repented of this error? Are
>> you now a PUT Calvinist instead of PTUI?

>I'm not equivocating.

Yes you are. If you resist grace, you resist the Spirit. But you claim
to believe the I of TULIP, "irresistible grace". Yet now you claim
that is IS possible to resist the Spirit.

Sounds like equivocation to me! Haven't you heard enough of this
equivocation from your kids? Why are you passing it on to us in the
NG?

>Just as, in the natural world, the same phenomena looks different
>when viewed at at different levels, the same thing happens in the
>supernatural world.

Not _that_ different, they don't. You are rationalizing now (instead
of merely equivocating).

>Or consider a play, movie, or book. Suppose an author creates a
>world where people are to do "X". But the author creates a character
>that refuses to do "X". Is this character obeying or resisting the
>author's will?

Unlike Gary, I do not consider the example of an author and his
characters very relevant. And even if I did, I would have to say you
are asking the wrong question; a less irrelevant example would be an
author whose character turned out very different from what he had in
mind when he started the book. For this really does happen.

But since even that is not a very good example (authors are not
omnipotent), I won't go into it further.

>> >At issue is _why_. That's why I wrote "this doesn't say _why_
>> >they resisted the Holy Spirit."

>> But this too, is equivocation.

>Obviously not, because you deduce what I (and the Scriptures) have been
>saying all along.

That does not follow. How could it, when we do not even _agree_ what
"Scriptures havce been saying all along"? If you want to prove it is
not equivocation, you have to do better than that. Try, for example, a
step by step proof using either symbolic logic or first form
syllogisms.

>> For if, as you say, they resist because they were not chosen, then the
>> resistance is not an act of their own will, but of their nature. But that
>> makes the author of their nature the cause of their resistance.

>Drat that clay; always doing wha