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In article <4E414846-F5E4-4197-A469-694529068E1A@srcbs.org>, Bob Felts says...

>Matthew Johnson wrote:

>>In article <0DC3C7E4-70F2-A7C2-B04F-604336B56185@srcbs.org>, Bob Felts says...

>> >Gary wrote:

>> >[...]


>> >> How do you know what infants believe or can believe? Further, I believe
>> >> that the work of Christ on the Cross made propiatition for all sin.
>> >> Hence God CAN save anyone He chooses to save.

>> >Even the person who resists His will?

>> Sure. Why not?

>Oh, because of everything you guys say.

"You guys"? My, my, Bob. I am not amazed that you resort to
fallacy, I am amazed that you resort to such a simple
fallacy so quickly.

After all, how could we fail to see through such a _simple_
case of the fallacy of composition.

>> Or do you think you can show how this would be equivalent to
>> "omnipotence achieving contradiction"?


>Of course I can't show that. The only people who _are_ saved are those
>who were saved against their will.

Wrong again. You make a total mockery of Psalm 1 by saying this.

Why, the reality is the very opposite of what you say. If it
is against your will, then you have NOT been saved, and you
are NOT being saved. You are still outside.

Take another look at Psalm 1. This time, pay _particular_ attention to:

but his delight is in the law of the LORD,
and on his law he meditates day and night. (Psa 1:2 RSVA)

And consider that 'delight' translates H2656. This IS a word of WILLING. It is
ONLY these willing who will stand with the righteous in judgment (Psa 1:5)


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>> > Is belief the result of what man does, or what God does in
>> >man? You always _assume_ the former; Scripture always affirms the
>> >latter.
>>
>> No, it does not. See Eze 18:23-32.

>It doesn't say what you want it to say, namely, that the source of the
>turning is within man.

And again, you amaze me with the haste of your resort to yet
another fallacy. I never _did_ say "the source of the
turning is within man". Why, that presumes that there IS a
single THE source. But this I never claimed.


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Subducat se sibi ut haereat Deo
Quidquid boni habet tribuat illi a quo factus est
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**Perhaps because you've been so roundly thrashed.

Actually the trinity has been roundly thrashed on th