In article <5784EA02-1CC3-F0EB-5FE0-DAE3B862AF7D@srcbs.org>,
lsenders@hotmail.com says...
>
>Matthew Johnson wrote:
>> In article <46B600EA-F905-45AD-0484-465E5BBE9B73@srcbs.org>, entropy says...
>>
>> >http://www.xmission.com/~fidelis/
>>
>> >Matthew will argue about this because he can't help
>> >himself.
>>
>> No, that is not why. I argue it because it is not only
>> wrong, it is dead wrong. People taken in by such falsehood
>> throw away their last chance at salvation.
>>
>It doesn't matter whether your Protestant, Anglican, RC or even, dare I
>say, OC. Salvation is one and the same.

Salvation can be "one and the same", yet not contradict what I said at all.

> It is the personal acceptance
>of the Father's call, by faith.

No, it is not.

> You are so stuck

No, it is YOU who are stuck. You are stuck in the "once saved, always saved"
error you fell in love with when you were still a child. And when you became a
man, you never put aside that childish misunderstanding.

> in your OCism that it
>is you who ends up actuating what most people attribute to radical
>fundamentalism.

Since when did YOU embrace the majority principle, Loren? What do you _care_
what "most people attribute" to anything?


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>> There certainly is such a need. And they do NOT fill this
>> need. But those who uphold the faith of the Seven Ecumenical
>> Councils without compromise DO fill this need.
>>
>the 7 EC are no more authoritative than the Westminister Confession or
>any of the others.

Yes, they are.

> Scripture alone is the sole authority of the
>Church.

No, it is not. How ironic you should make this claim, when Scripture itself does
NOT support this claim.

> It alone is empowered by the Spirit to guide the Church to
>sanctification.

No, it is the Spirit Himself who is so empowered.

> Calvin was not wrong by starting his institutes out by
>investigating the knowledge of God.

No, he was wrong.

> He was absolutely right.

No, hew as _absoutely_ wrong. For the 'knowledge' of God he 'investigated' was
not even knowledge of God at all. It was knowledge only of a Scholastic fantasy.

> Men are
>not saved by following these or any other council.

I didn't say they were. Knock it off with the straw-man arguments, Loren.
Unless, of course, you want to admit that you have nothing stronger than straw
to lean on!

> They are saved by
>hearing the Word of God.

And that "Word of God" is ALL the Apostolic preaching, NOT just the Bible.

> This was the fundamental of Pauline and
>Petrine theology. Nothing has changed.