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nnalyd@yahoo.com wrote:


> basicallyblues writes:
> LOL. Oh really? So the "vessel" that Peter saw "descending like a
> great linen sheet...in it were all sorts of four-footed creatures and
> creeping things of the earth and birds of heaven" at Acts 10:11, 12
> truly existed?

Hmmmm....so which to you think is closer to reality: What we
think of as real or what God says is real? Personally, I'd
say that John's Revelation is more real than the Iraqi war.

Bart

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Gary McNees wrote:

> "Bob Felts" wrote in message
> news:155.39.06.05.634115000@srcbs.org...
> >
> >
> > Matthew Johnson wrote:
> >
> > > In article <153.21.08.05.256213000@srcbs.org>, Bob Felts says...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Gary McNees wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> "Bob Felts" wrote in message
> > > >> news:151.59.14.05.918582000@srcbs.org...
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Gary McNees wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > For the Calvinist god certainly does not only speak lies, but
> > > >> > > acts unjustly.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Who says?
> > > >>
> > > >> God and me.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >Where does God say that what you happen to think is unjust is unjust?
> > >
> > > Gary has already answered this question. In fact, he has answered it
> > > _so_ many times, I dread the thought of looking it up again in Google.
> > > You do it -- if you really can't remember.
> > >
> >
> > Google won't help if the answers are like the non-answer you give below.
> >
> > > Briefly, the answer is Mt 5:45-48.
> >
> > Gary seems to think that creating vessels of wrath devoted to
> > destruction is unjust. How in the world does this say that this is
> > actually unjust?
>
> I can't find any passage which states that God created vessels of wrath.

As usual, you dodge the question. We can argue whether or not God does
this as a separate question. The question is, as posed, is this an
unjust action? If so, where does Scripture say that this is unjust?

> The closest is: Romans 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to
> make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath
> fitted to destruction:
>
> But this doesn't say what you would like it to say. First one does not
> endure with much longsuffering that which he designs! (At least God
> doesn't.)

How do you know? Remember, _your_ notion of good and evil doesn't