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I would just like to point out to all you evangelicals out there that
you have not seen anything of the after-life and I have.

I can tell you this. Hanging on to a bible and going to church don't
mean a thing as far as getting into Heaven. I know this for a fact.

In fact, Heaven isn't even a place you go to. It does exist, but in a
peculiar way that is hard to put into words, which is really how it's
meant to be.

Please just treat each other well and with understanding. Try to be
good people and stop thinking that the prayer and other things will get
you into Heaven. That's not what it's about. Trust me. I've been there.

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>Platonism was not trinitarianism it was tri-modal.

it layed the groundwork for the trinity you now believe. If you can't
see that then no amount of reasoning will convince you. It is you that
needs to do your homework. You feed on what is friendly to what you
want to believe- you like to have your ears tickled. I could could
quote countless scholars who assert that Plato paved the way to Nicea
and you can come back with your trinitarian apologists and nothing will
change here.

>You are an idolator! That is, you view God other than He is, and this
>is basic to all idolatry.

oh the tragic irony here. I believe in the same God Jesus believed in.
You do not. Jesus referred to this God as the "only true God" (John
17:3) He called him God on earth (John 20:17) and in heaven (Rev.
3:2,12). It is you that believes in a pagan 3-headed monstrosity that
can't even be supported by complicated philosophy. You have gone awry
in your sophistry. Jesus is inferior to YHWH- always has been and
always will be.

>As late
>as the 2nd C we see the "rule of faith" in written formulas which are
>either clearly dyadic or triadic in nature.

so what? they aren't triune

>The "Didache" (7:1-3) uses a Trinitarian blessing. Irenaeus
>clearly uses this in "Proof" 3. I suggest you read his "Epistle to
>Magnesian" 8.2.

You only think it's "trinitarian" because you already believe in the
trinity. Such is the case with Matthew 28:19, which is an obvious
influence. You are guilty of circular reasoning again.


>Everything was lost after the
>departure of the apostles, according to your exposition.

that is not my contention. it was a gradual decay- as time passed Greek
philosophy, gnosticism, politics played an ever increasing role in the
"church". Polycarp seems to stick quite closely to his teacher John for
example.

>The problem with this is that it is totally contrary to the Hebrew
>Scriptures. Revela