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> Some scholars believe that although Jesus was/is God and man
> simultaneously, He did not operate as God on earth. I would like to
> know what everyone's take is regarding this matter?
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Phil 2 and the "kenosis" passage. This and John's gospel indicate that
Christ did not operate under the divine consciousness. In Luke 2:52,
we read that He not only grew in stature, but in understanding the
universe from a human perspective, not from the Creator's perspective.
In Jn 8, the Greek reveals that the sudden thrusting of religious
leaders, the woman caught in adultery, caught Jesus by surprise, that
is, the divine omniscient consciousness was not operational.
There is another thought to be added to all this. How can it be said
that He was tempted in all manner as man if He did not operate
consciously as we do we? To be a true mediator, must share in the
human experience, which certainly includes having to live consciously
moment by moment. Man, being the creature, must live dependently, not
as God Himself operates, self-sufficiently.
So basically, I personally read the gospel accounts of Christ as
operating consciously as a man. Luke 4:1 provides the answer for His
seemingly superhuman attributes. He was "full of the Holy Spirit".
Elsewhere we read that He was given the Spirit without measure. That
He was born without sin, that He had the full measure of the Spirit
operating through Him and leading Him (again Lk 4:1), we are granted
some insight as to how and why He was able to turn water into wine,
command the storm to cease, to know the hearts of men, to forgive sin
-and yet retain a truly dependent consciousness even as other men are
themselves called to "be filled with the Spirit."
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Ephesians 1:3, and 4:30 constitute my reason for believing as you have
been taught: "sealed with that holy spirit of promise." These
authoritative statements are made in the context of the Christian Church
Epistles.
Now about James' reference to the epistle to the Hebrews: the meaning of
chapter 6:4-6 as I see it is dependant on chapter 5. The writer is
admonishing his audience because of their infancy in spiritual matters.
They were infants because they dwelt only on the first principles of
their belief, namely, repentance, faith and baptism etc.(Heb. 6:1). If
they fell away from the faith (v.6) it was impossible to restore them to
that original repentance (v.1) again because it would be as if they were
crucifying Christ all over again and that is impossible. For Christian
maturity or restoration one has to turn to scriptures other than those
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