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Gary McNees wrote:

> Why o why do people like so much to contradict Scripture?
>
> Matthew 7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto
> your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give
> good things to them that ask him?
>
> Gary

Have you read, "The plowing of the wicked is sin?" or "The sacrifice of the
wicked is an abomination?" Both of these are, in principle, good works; the
former feeds the family (fathers give their children bread) and the latter
constitutes worship. But both are decried as _evil_.

Gary, the point that is made in Scripture is that good deeds aren't good
unless the person who does them is regenerate. This is why our righteousness
is as filthy rags. It is not that we don't do things that are in principle
good--and I don't think any Calvinist you ever talk to would say
otherwise--but the simple fact that we are the ones who do them.

You seem to fixate on the work / faith instead of the actor, when it is the
latter that counts, not the former.


To avoid this, you must demonstrate from Scripture that every man has been
"fixed" in this regard, so that his flesh no longer poses the barrier that it
apparently did when such proverbs were written--and suddenly you are left
looking at works-based righteousness, _whether you count faith as a work or not_.


-Ethan

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"Bart Goddard" wrote in message
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>
snip
>
> The two sentences:
>
> God wills all men be saved.
>
> God wills some men be damned.
>

I find the first in Scripture.
I find the negative of the first in Scripture:
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count
slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should
perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Romans 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and
longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to
repentance?

Isaiah 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his
thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him;
and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

Ezekiel 3:18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou
givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way,
to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but h