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Bob Felts wrote:
> zach wrote:
>
> > > > >Whatever the case the Bible says that nobody had gone to
heaven
> > > > > prior to 33 c.e.
> > > >
> > > > >The Bible says nothing of the kind.
> > > >
> > > > Sure it does. John 3:13.
> > >
> > > Let's read it again putting the Greek verb tenses into English:
> > >
> > > No one has ever, by their own action and power, ascended into
heaven
> > > except the one who, by His own action and power, descended from
heaven.
> > >
> > > What this verse clearly demonstrates is Jesus' majesty, power,
and
> > > ability. It does not indicate that no one has ever been taken
into
> > > heaven.
> >
> > I can think of no usage of something or someone "ascending" if not
by
> > its own power or volition, or talked about passively by design.
Over
> > the weekend, I have been trying to think of even one example, and I
> > cannot. Anyone? The statement seems pretty clear.
> >
>
> Helicopters. Planes. Balloons. Rockets with astronauts. The
rocket
> goes up under it's own power, the astronauts are taken up.

I think Bob is correct. A person can actively ascend or descend in a
building by using the stairs or passively ascend or descend by using an
elevator. I see no reason to limit the word "ascend" to climbing
the stairs and not apply it also to riding up in an elevator. If God
reaches down and raises a man to heaven, the man can be said to have
ascended to heaven. If on the other hand he climbs Jacob's ladder to
heaven, he also can be said to have ascended to heaven.

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Hi Bart:

Bart Goddard wrote:
> gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:
>
>
>>>And Scripture is clear that Judas' path was predetermined.
>>
>>If you mean by "predetermined" that God knew that
>>Judas would freely choose to do what he did, then
>>I agree. God did NOT cause Judas to betray Jesus.
>
>
> Do you have any basis for that last statement? We
> don't know what God will is.

Well, we do know what God has revealed concerning
His will. God desires all to be saved and none to
perish, hence I would conclude that He not only
would not CAUSE Judas to sin, but as James says,
God doesn't even tempt men to sin. There is no
"darkness" at all in God. God is good, infinitely
good. God so loved the world, (and world is defined
in the gospel of John as being the lost humans in
the world), that He gave His only begotten Son.


> "O the depth and the
> riches and wisdom an