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In article <134.18.14.05.086749000@srcbs.org>, Streamer says...
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>> In article <133.02.12.05.177655000@srcbs.org>, Streamer says...
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>>>Now, back to the topic.
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>> So why are you _avoiding_ the topic?
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>Who told you?

You did. You forgot already?

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>>>There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
>>>(Rom 8:1 RSVA)
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>> Wrong. I do not accept that version of the text. Nor should you. It really
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>> There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus,
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>> walk not according to the flesh. (Rom 8:1)
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>So why did you post Rom 8:1 RSVA ?

Because I was showing you the _variety_ of different versions. Remember: I
started out with the observation that there is a famous textual difficulty here.
DIfferent translations follow different texts in this verse. THAT is the point I
am trying to make clear to you.

>> For without that "who walk not according to the flesh", you WILL
>> misunderstand
>> who he is referring to, when he sayd "who are in Christ Jesus". He does
>> NOT mean
>> everybody who ever shouted out "I believe in Jesus! I'm saved"!
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>Agree.
>Many people claim. But without the Spirit of God in them, it's a false
>claim.
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>This is what I've posted:
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>Rom 8:1: There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ
>Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

And which translation are you following when you do this? Remember: that was my
original question.


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Subducat se sibi ut haereat Deo
quidquid boni habet, tribuat illi a quo factus est.
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If Jesus said “ I was not there” and part of his being is there, therefore,
Jesus’ statement is misleading. But of course, Jesus won’t mislead
anybody, so when Jesus said “ I was not there”, it doesn’t mean “not
bodily there” but the whole being is NOT there.


Jesus won’t dwell in man made temples,which is the same as his Father.
Acts 17:24. Therefore if Jesus is not dwelling in man made temples, Jesus
is NOT THERE. Therefore Jesus can’t be in ALL PLACES AT ALL TIMES.

Do you hear yourself, Matthew? If Jesus is literally IN all things,so how
abou