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> gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote...
> >
> >
> > > So reading
> > > your bible, though very admirable, is not enough. One must have true
> > > faith, believing Christ is God and that the Holy Spirit is God as
well,
> > > instructing us in the truth of His revelation. Without the Spirit,
you
> > > are only capacitated to humanistically reason what this or that
passage
> > > speaks of. Word & the Spirit. You must have both or you have nothing
> > > at all.
> >
> > One must not only read the Bible, one must believe it to be saved.
>
> That is not Scriptural. What the Bible says is that belief in Christ
> is saving, not belief in the Bible per se.
>
> John 3:16
I agree.
But we need to realize that "salvation" is used in more than one way
in Scripture. One can be "saved" from shipwreck, saved from sickness,
saved from physical death, saved from all kinds of error, and other things.
What John 3:16 refers to is salvation from sin.
If people believe Scripture they are saved from all sorts of error.
Further, as Christ said,
John 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote
of me.
Thus we see that a believing of the Bible in general has some relationship
to
believing in Christ and what He said.
Gary
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In article <143.48.18.05.923983000@srcbs.org>, Bob Felts says...
>
[snip]
>Sure. But, once again, you _assume_ that a command or exhortation
>carries with it the ability to do it.
Sure, it does.
> It does not, as Paul so
>abundantly makes clear.
No, Paul does NOT do this.
> "Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the
>leopard its spots? Neither can you do good who are accustomed to doing
>evil." [Jer 13:23]
You are quoting Jeremiah, not Paul. And you are quoting him out of context, too.
Perhaps if you had paid closer attention to the context, you would have noticed
how Christ contradicts your interpretation when He says:
Among men this is impossible; but with God all things
are possible (Mt 19:26)
So no, you cannot say this is impossible, just base on the Jeremiah quote.
[snip]
>Once again, a circular argument, which I dealt with in another post.
And