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Bart Goddard wrote:
> gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:
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>
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>>My belief is that God does it all. That salvation is a FREE gift, and
>>I realize that FREE gift may seem redundant, but it seems necessary.
>
>
> You say that, but your espousal of "free will" contradicts it.

Not so.

>>Now many will accuse me of "antinomianism." But they accused Paul of
>>the same.
>
>
> Heh. On sci.math we have plethora crackpots who think they can
> trisect a general angle or square the circle or perform some
> other mathematical feat which we know to be impossilbe. They
> always start their tirades with "They laughed at Newton!
> They laughed at Gauss! They laughed at Einstein! So I won't
> be surprised if you laughed at me."
>
> The standard response is "They also laughed at Bozo the Clown."
>
> Not only was Paul accused of antinomianism, but so were the
> antinomians. This issue would be whether you are falsely
> accused or rightly accused. We can't look at Paul to tell
> that.
>
> OTOH, you're most definitely a "nomian", since you really
> require acts of the law for salvation.

Let's see. Who said that the keeping of the 1st commandment
is saving faith? Bart

Who has repeatedly said that one is saved simply by believing,

"Christ died for me."

Looks like you are the one who makes salvation by works of law.

>>Now this work is done in the person whether they agree or not.
>
>
> So he didn't make the choice. He didn't have free will after all.

We have free will to do some things, and not others.

>>>>>Free will theology _always_ ends in works righteousness.
>>>>
>>>>Needless to say, I disagree. One is saved by "coming to Jesus,"
>>>>but one comes to Jesus by faith, which is neither a good nor
>>>>a bad WORK.
>>>
>>>
>>>As I tried to point out, the grammar here is bad. It's no
>>>good saying "faith is not a work" as if that were a bit
>>>of doctrine, rather than a consequence of the fact that
>>>the statement makes no sense.
>>>
>>>The issue is whether _the having_ of faith is a work.
>>>(And it is. It is exactly obedience to the 1st Commandment.)
>>
>>I, as before stated could not disagree more. In my understanding it is
>>the very OPPOSITE of obedience to the 1st commandment or any other
>>commandment.
>
>
> OK, if a person ends rejects Jesus, then he ends up in
> Hell, so rejecting Jesus is a sin. If it's a sin, it
> must violate some commandment. Which one?

Not sure what you thought you just said.

Christ died for me, and I know this because God said so.
Thus I know it by faith.