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"Bob Felts" wrote in message
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> Gary McNees wrote:
>
> > "Bob Felts" wrote in message
> > news:172.29.21.05.072083000@srcbs.org...
> > >
> > >
> > > Gary McNees wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Bart Goddard" wrote in message
> > > > news:153.23.08.05.122259000@srcbs.org...
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Calvinists claim that man is not saved "against his will." But
the
> > > > > > procedure of God regenerating them without their will is like
> > > > > > putting one to sleep,
> > > > >
> > > > > No, it's just the opposite. It's like waking someone up. They
have
> > > > > expressed no will to either remain asleep nor to wake. They're
> > > > > _asleep_; they don't have a will. God wakes them up, just like He
> > > > > called Lazarus out of the tomb.
> > > >
> > > > Nonsense.
> > > >
> > >
> > > That's a resounding rebuttal -- and it accurately describes that which
> > > has happened to so many of us. Read C. S. Lewis if you don't believe
me
> > > or Bart. Do you have anything other scoffing to back up your
objection?
> >
> > Yes. All of scripture teaches that salvation and life from God comes
> > THROUGH faith.
>
> Same topic, different thread...
>
> So where does faith come from? Where is it found within the
> unregenerate?

Bob, I found the following quote from Buswell to be valuable on this
subject. He seems to be a "moderate" Calvinist, like Geisler.

"The plan of salvation is not symmetrical. Those who are lost are lost
"because" they have resisted the grace of God in Christ (John 3:18). Those
who are saved are saved because God saves them, and for no other reason
(Romans 9:16)." Buswell, systematic Theology, 2:145.



Thus if man does not REJECT God when He reproves of sin, righteousness, and
judgment, God saves him, but not AGAINST his will.



Also, from page 2:155-6.

"

The Plan NOT Symmetrical



The plan is not symmetrical. If, for example, we have a vast population
differing form one another in some respect by infinitesimal degrees, and if
we draw a line somewhere bisecting this population, it follows that the two
parts of the population will logically as well as actually, include the
whole. Any population mechanically bisected by a line, will consist of two
parts which are mutually complementary.

But the distinction between the saved and the lost is not a thin line, nor
any mechanical device. A facetious il