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The ten commandments talk about adultery but it seems that Saul, David
and Solomon had many wives. Was adultery defined only by a man
sleeping with another man's wife or did it also include women sleeping
with a married man? In that case, Saul, David, and Solomon may not
have comitted adultery (except for David with Bathsheba) when they
slept with their wives. Did their many wives commit adultery?

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lsenders@hotmail.com:

> Helmut Richter wrote:

>> lsenders@hotmail.com:
>>
>> > the essentials of faith which all Christians must accept. Briefly they
>> > were: (1) the inerrancy of the Scriptures, (2) the deity of Christ, (3)
>> > His virgin birth, (4) His substitutionary atonement, and (5) His
>> > physical resurrection and future bodily return.
>>
>> (1) is not obvious

> Of course it isn't.

When you quote me, do so with enough context. I had not written that
(1) is not obvious (as for everybody), but rather that

(1) is not obvious either from the Scriptures or from early Church
decisions, at least if a narrow understanding of "inerrancy" is
implied that goes far beyond "reliable testimony" or "inspiration"
or "usefulness for the purposes listed in 2Tim.3:16".

In short, formal inerrancy of the Scripture has not been a doctrine of the
entire Church since its beginning, at least not one that would have led to
its inclusion in the creeds. As far as I can see, the Scripture have
always been regarded as the most prominent witness to what we believe in,
but not as something we believe in. Peter's and Paul's sermons were about
Jesus, about his death and resurrection, about sin, repentance, and
salvation, but not about Scripture. They did *use* the Scripture to
corroborate their message, e.g. in Acts 2, but the Scripture was not the
*content* of their message. It is only logical that Scripture does not
appear as content in the creeds but only as witness:

On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures.
(Nicene Creed)

> It requires the testimony of the Spirit to appreciate the divinity of
> the Scripture.

What "divinity"? Divinity in itself, like a fourth member to the Trinity?
Certainly not.

Helmut Richter





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On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 12:28:41 +0000 (UTC), "ruth"
wrote:

>
>Al Smith wrote: