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In article <47D10193-E856-B070-D13F-FC60E10292D9@srcbs.org>, zach says...
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>
>Stephen M. Adams wrote:
>> "Gary" writes:
>>
>> >If people believe Scripture they are saved from all sorts of error.
>>
>> And yet, they make all kinds of errors, especially with regard to
>> theology, as they do not rightly interpret the Scriptures.
>>
>> >Further, as Christ said,
>> >John 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote
>> >of me.
>> >
>> >Thus we see that a believing of the Bible in general has some relationship
>> >to believing in Christ and what He said.
>>
>> And before the Scriptures were written and collected???
>
>There are big problems in the Early Church, as evidenced by the Letters
>of the Apostles which later became scripture.

"Big problems" you say? Do you really think they were any bigger than the
problems we face today? I don't.


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Subducat se sibi ut haereat Deo
quidquid boni habet, tribuat illi a quo factus est.
(St. Augustine, Ser. 96)


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basicallyblues wrote:

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> The rest of your post has nothing to do with the Bible or the 1st
> Century so I don't see a reason to respond to the opinions of men.
>
Duh! It had to do with heresies! You responded to none of the 6 pts.
What is interesting is your cutting and pasting. At least you should
give credit to your resources.

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"Bart Goddard" wrote in message
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>
> gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:
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> >> > Isaiah 5:4 What could have been done more to my vineyard, that I
> >> > have not done in it? wherefore, when I looked that it should bring
> >> > forth grapes, brought it forth wild grapes?
> >>
> >> Seen many grapes with free will?
> >
> > see them miss the point completely?
>
> If there is someway to contrue free will in from this passage,
> then, by all means, show us. Grapes grow how they grow,
> don't blame "us" if your own analogy doesn't work.

God is saying, "WHAT MORE COULD I DO?"
Now according to your theology, God could do everything!
The wills of the grapes or vines are inconsequential.
In fact everything is inconsequential, except for God's
will. Man has no will essentially.

"The real question, then, is not whether there are agents who cause their
own actions but whether God is