"Bart Goddard" wrote in message
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> gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:
>
> > I maintain that receiving a FREE GIFT in no way amounts
to a
> > contribution to the making or creation of the gift.
>
> And I maintain that even though you give lip service to
> this, your doctrine contradicts it.

The only one giving "lip service" to salvation by Grace
through faith is you.

>
> > We receive the free gift of salvation by faith. This
faith
> > is "saving faith." and is empty of any merit. The gift
> > itself is entirely of Grace. None of us deserve it at
all.
>
> So you're saying that God gives us saving faith as a
> free gift which we can't do anything to earn, merit,
> deserve or otherwise extort from God. Which means
> that you're saying God changes our heart from an attitude
> of hating Him to an attitude of trusting Him. And that
> means you don't believe in "free will", because God
> changes our will.

Not so.
John 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall
be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath
heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.


>
> And yet, you preach "free will".

The way you use "free will," it can mean anything and
everything.
I use it as God uses it.


Deuteronomy 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day
against you, that I have set before you life and death,
blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou
and thy seed may live:

Isaiah 10:1 Woe unto them that decree unrighteous decrees,
and that write grievousness which they have prescribed;

When the shoe fits, you should ware it.

Gary



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"Bart Goddard" wrote in message
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>
>
> gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:
>
>
> >> > Thus, as I have repeatedly stated before, God gave the GOOD gift
> >> > of free will, and man by misusing it sins.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Knowing full well what will happen, I give a gun to one man which he
> >> uses to shoot game to provide food for his family. He takes a good
> >> gift and uses it wisely.
> >>
> >> Again, knowing full well what will happen, I give a gun to another
> >> man who uses it to shoot his wife and children.
> >>
> >> Does "free will" absolve me in the second case?
> >
> > I wouldn't give a gun to the second man. :)
> > This is really getting funny.
>
> I guess. The whole point is that God does give the gun