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Newbie here...
Just wanted to let ya'll know your arguing about how you argue...
thought it was cute...

ok, i'm out of the conversation now...

peace.

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Gary McNees wrote:

> "Bob Felts" wrote in message
> news:153.21.08.05.256213000@srcbs.org...
> >
> >
> > Gary McNees wrote:
> >
> > > "Bob Felts" wrote in message
> > > news:151.59.14.05.918582000@srcbs.org...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Gary McNees wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > For the Calvinist god certainly does not only speak lies, but acts
> > > > > unjustly.
> > > >
> > > > Who says?
> > >
> > > God and me.
> > >
> >
> > Where does God say that what you happen to think is unjust is unjust?
>
> In scripture. That is where I get my understanding of what is just and
> unjust.
>
>
> Psalms 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all
> his works.
>
> It is not being GOOD nor MERCIFUL to do as you assert the Calvinist God
> does.
>

Really? Where does Scripture say this? Especially since Romans 9 says
that God's choices in election do not depend on human will or effort.
BTW, you're arguing in circles, since you are using 'good' to define
'just', but you haven't provided a definition for 'good' before jumping
in and saying 'I don't think your understanding of God's dealing with
the non-elect is good'.

> If this is not obvious to you, then imagine yourself being in the caste of
> the non-elect, and see how good and merciful God is to you.

My definition of good doesn't count.

>
> I call it a "caste" for according to Calvinism God has put everyone from
> eternity past into one of two "castes."

That's what "at that not of yourselves" happens to mean, Gary. You can
use whatever emotionally laden terms you want, but it's there in black
and white.

> Groups from which no one can be extricated by any means.

By any _human_ means.

>
> This is contradictory to all of Scripture.
>

No, it just means that you doggedly cling to salvation by works
underneath your faux-orthodox exterior and deny grace in the very core
of your being.

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Hi Bob,