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In article <5FFB5B12-AA81-5AB5-C1BA-BBDD3E71AA26@srcbs.org>, Bart Goddard
says...
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>matthew_member@newsguy.com wrote:
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>> No, that is not what he said. Again: tell me which passage you are
>> misinterpreting and I will explain
>> o you how you _should_ have read it!
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>If that doesn't sum things up, nothing does. And you
>call me arrogant? This is why no one takes you seriously.
Again, as so often, both your premise and your conclusion are false. Lots of
people take me seriously. You have once again presumed to know the mind of the
NG when you do not. Far from it.
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Subducat se sibi ut haereat Deo
Quidquid boni habet tribuat illi a quo factus est
(Sanctus Aurelius Augustinus, Ser. 96)
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victorthecleaner@gmail.com wrote:
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>> I can ask the same rhetorical question as Paul: If it is not
>> the Word which creates faith, then how can it be created?
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> By God?
The Word was God.
> What was the source of the faith of the thief on the cross?
Do you think we was just hanging there and all the sudden
faith magically appeared in him? Clearly Jesus spoke to him, and
we know nothing of his history. We don't know who he talked with
in prison or what city he was from (Antioch? Where there was
an active group of followers?) Did he hear John the Baptist preach?
(Likely.)
> What about Cornelius (Acts 10)? This man clearly had faith before the
> Gospel was preached to him.
Not hardly. There are pleny of preachers of the Gospel going about,
John the Baptist included. By the time Cornelius comes along, the
Apostles have been around. We Cornelius present at Pentacost?
Bart
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On Fri, 13 May 2005 20:45:47 +0000 (UTC), lsenders@hotmail.com wrote:
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>The key to Rev is 1:19. In the Greek it is more obvious that there are
>three distinct ages in this "revelation" of Christ.
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>Rev. 1:19 "Write therefore the things which you have seen, and the
>things which are, and the things which shall take place after these
>things.
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>"the things which shall take place" are stated in
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>Rev. 4:1 After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open
>in heaven, and the first voice which I had heard, like the sound of a
>trumpet speaking with me, said, "Com