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"Stephen M. Adams" wrote in message
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> "Gary" writes:
> >"Stephen M. Adams" wrote:
> >> "Gary" writes:
> >>
> >> >If people believe Scripture they are saved from all
sorts of error.
> >>
> >> And yet, they make all kinds of errors, especially with
regard to
> >> theology, as they do not rightly interpret the
Scriptures.
> >
> >Very true of all of us, including yourself and me.
> >
> >> >Further, as Christ said,
> >> >John 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have
believed me: for he
> >wrote
> >> >of me.
> >> >
> >> >Thus we see that a believing of the Bible in general
has some
> >relationship
> >> >to believing in Christ and what He said.
> >>
> >> And before the Scriptures were written and collected???
> >
> >Well, of course the OT was written and collected long
before there
> >was any hint of the Orthodox Church.
>
> You are mistaken. The One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic
Church, which
> is the Orthodox Church existed BEFORE the collection of
the Scriptures
> by ANY reckoning.
>
> >We disagree upon which precedes which. I believe that God
gave
> >the Scripture to the Church, not that the Church gave the
Scripture
> >to us.
>
> The Church wrote, collected, compiled and transmitted the
body of the
> canon. The church existed BEFORE the first book of the NT
was written.

NO!!!!

The Church is BUILT
20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and
prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth
unto an holy temple in the Lord:

The "Chruch" did NOT write the Bible. Are you going to
assert that the OC existed before Christ came to earth?

I agree that the "church" did keep the writings of the
Apostles and Prophets and compile them and because they
digilently copied them we have them today. But many of the
copies we have are not from the OC.

I maintain still that God gave His word to the Church, and
the Church then kept it, and passed it on to others.

The Church is BUILT UPON the Apostles and Prophets and Jesus
Christ (NOT PETER) is the Chief Corner Stone of that
foundation.

> >We can see from the OT how the "church" generally did not
accept
> >the truth, nor did it keep it. Generally the church
disobeyed the Scripture,
> >and we have prophecy in the NT that the same thing would
occur with
> >the NT writings.
>
> Yes, and the vast majority of those who claim to be
Christians do not
> follow Biblical doctrines