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lsenders@hotmail.com wrote:
> ruth wrote:
>
> > >
> > > > Palestinian Covenant: Deut 30:1-10 "I will" 12 times
> >
> > It was not given to the philistines, the enemies
> > of Israel. See Jer.47.
> >
> > >
> > > > Davidic Covenant: II Sam 7:10-16 "I will" 7 times
> >
> > What makes this a covenant and not a promise?
> >
> There are actual 7 covenants in all.

I cannot agree. What is your Scriptural and supportive assumption for
this statement?
Ruth

> The first three--Edenic, Adamic,
> Noahic--are made with all mankind in general. The next
> four--Abrahamic, Mosaic, Palestinian, Davidic--are made totally or
> primarily with and concerning Israel. The final one, the New covenant,
> is to be established with Israel upon their national repentance, but

> into its blessings present-day believers in Christ enter as being in
> the Seed.

Numbers 15, and other verses, show that gentile believers in YHVH were
allowed a special relationship within the Mosaic Covenant. The
reqiurement was that they believed in YHVH as the only God and their
Lord. They did not receive ownership of the land but otherwise they
were loved children of the Father as were the children of Isaac and
received His blessings and discipline.
In the NC, it is logical to believe, and there is Scriptural backing,
for the hope of a similar arrangement. In fact, because the gentile
believers in Acts demonstrated the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, the
apostles considered them to be children of God.
Why you used the phrase, "the Seed" which signifies the means to
everlasting salvation as promised in Gen.3, as opposed to Jesus or
Yeshua, is interesting. Care to explain?
Ruth


>
> Of the final four, all are unconditional except the Mosaic covenant.
> In this case, God proposed a relationship possibility ("If ye
> will") to which Israel responded: "All that the LORD hath spoken,
> we will do" (Ex. 19:5-8). On the basis of their acceptance, the
> covenant was instituted (Ex. 19:9ff). All the other covenants were
> simply announced by God and/or imposed.


Abrahamic Covenant:
(Gen 17:1-14 NKJV)
[1] When Abram was ninety-nine years old, the LORD appeared to Abram
and said to him, "I am Almighty God; walk before Me and be blameless.
[2] And I will make My covenant between Me and you, and will multiply
you exceedingly."

[3] Then Abram fell on his face,

and God talked with him, saying:

[4] *"As for Me*, behold, My covenant is with you, and you shall be a
father of many nations. [5] No longer shall your name be called Abram,
but your name shall be Abraham; for I have made you a father of many
nations. [6