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nnalyd@yahoo.com wrote:


> Only in ignorance could you make such a useless observation. The ONLY
> alleged "scholars" who have said such a thing are merely biased.


Finally, a true ad hominem argument. It doesn't matter
what there case was, since they must be biased, we won't
listen to them.

Very honest.

Bart

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"Bart Goddard" wrote in message
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>
>
> gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:
>
> >> > After all, what Christ said in Luke 10 is very easy to understand.
> >> > It is quite hard for many to accept, because it enunciates facts
> >> > which many refuse to believe.
> >> >
> >> > 1) God knows what one would do under different conditions.
> >>
> >> Which doesn't imply any freedom. Just the opposite, in fact:
> >> People's wills are bound by these "conditions" they find
> >> themselves "under".
> >
> > Another assertion. Prove it. That is, prove that they would
> > not have freely willed it.
>
> Your verse says that the Sidionese are unrepentant.

No it does not.

> And they
> will remain unrepentant until/unless God takes action, in
> which case they will become repentant.

No, it does not.

> So their "choice
> for Jesus" is entirely dependent upon God's action.

Does not follow.

> These
> people aren't free to decide one way or the other.

Does not follow.

> If
> God decides He wants them to believe, then He does
> miracles there.

The verse did not say this.

> If not, He refrains.

Nor this.

> >> > 2) The unregenerate would repent under some conditions.
> >>
> >> And if your God, Who says "What more could I do", doesn't
> >> provide these conditions, is He lying or just a monster?
> >
> > More unfounded "logic?" NO.
> >
> > God can't do the exact same miracles everywhere.
>
> Why not?

Because they would be DIFFERENT miracles by
definition. Different people, different location, etc. etc. etc.

> You said He could do anything "possible". If
> it's "possible" to change water into wine in Canaan, then
> why isn't it "possible" to do it in Sidon?

Maybe He did. Are all the exact same people in Sidon
that are in Bethesda upon which He may have done miracles?

> > There are obviously some that just
> > will not repent.
>
> So they don't hav