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Bob Felts Wrote:

I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I would bet that BB would
say that Jesus is his Savior. But it seems you would claim that this
isn't a high enough level, contradicting your statement that our
apprehension doesn't have to attain to a level.

Yes Jesus is my Lord and Savior. Although you and I disagree on the
trinity and other points I am encouraged by your objectivity. You
believe in the trinity and I don't but you are the only one so far (out
of all of US) who isn't stubbornly taking sides. You've inspired me to
not take insults personal and not insult from this point on.

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"Bart Goddard" wrote in message
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> gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:
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> >> > Thus, as I have repeatedly stated before, God gave the GOOD gift
> >> > of free will, and man by misusing it sins.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Knowing full well what will happen, I give a gun to one man which he
> >> uses to shoot game to provide food for his family. He takes a good
> >> gift and uses it wisely.
> >>
> >> Again, knowing full well what will happen, I give a gun to another
> >> man who uses it to shoot his wife and children.
> >>
> >> Does "free will" absolve me in the second case?
> >
> > I wouldn't give a gun to the second man. :)
> > This is really getting funny.
>
> I guess. The whole point is that God does give the gun
> to the second man.

God hasn't given any guns to any man.

> In your judgement, this is the
> wrong move. A man who misuses free will and ends up
> in hell has done a much more heinous thing then the man
> with the gun.

In your view, man does not have free will. So why does
the man do these heinous things? Because he is controlled
by Satan? Who let Satan control him?

> Yet somehow you think God is not responsible
> for an atrocity committed with His "gift" of free will,
> while you admit that you'd be responsible for an atrocity
> committed with your gift of a gun.

No I do not. I did not say that. Can't you at least use
the words that your opponent actually says?

And how is it that your God is not responsible? Or do
you teach that He is? And if He is resonsible then how
is the man responsible? I know, I know, by fiat! God
just tells the man he is responsible even though he
had no will to do otherwise. Wonderful God, wonderful
logic, wonderful ethic.

> Very inconsistant of you.

No it is not