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> lsend...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> Sarah Kanary wrote:
>> > "Gary"
>>
>> > > Sarah, you remind me of those who deny the holocaust!
>> >
>> > Since thousands of us were actually victims of it, that would be highly
>> > unlikely. What does 1 Cor. 5:11-13 mean to you?
>>
>> Sarah, the JfW's where not victims f the "holocaust" there were merely
>> casualites of war. Again, you refuse the strict understanding of word
>> definition.
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> Actually, JWs _were_ targeted by the Nazis and put into concentration
> camps, along with other political prisoners and malcontents. Their
> singular devotion to Jehovah had no place in Germany where the state
> was god. In his autobiography, Aushwitz Commandant Rudolf Hoess
> recounts the remarkable strength and devotion to their religion
> exhibited by JW prisoners, even to their deaths, which in his eyes,
> most seemed to welcome.
Thank you for your acknowledgement of the truth. Even though I know you do
not agree with my beliefs, I appreciate your objectivity in this matter.
Peace.
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"First the Nazis went after the Jews, but I was not a Jew, so I did not
object. Then they went after the Catholics, but I was not a Catholic, so I
did not object. Then they went after the Trade-Unionists, but I was not a
Trade-Unionist, so I did not object. Then they came after me, and there was
no one left to object."
Martin Niemoller
German Theologian
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Matthew Johnson
> In article <153.21.08.05.919325000@srcbs.org>, Bob Felts says...
> >
>
> [snip]
>
> >But you have God giving free will to someone who He knows will misuse it
> >to cause misery, destruction, and death.
> >
> >So how do you justify this?
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> Why are you asking him to _justify_ it, when _neither_ of you really believe
> that man can justify God?
Because one of the frequent complaints of Calvinism is that its "god" is
really demonic because of the notion that He creates vessels of wrath
devoted to destruction.
He needs to see that the "free-will granting god" likewise has a PR
problem.
Therefore, the "no free will" position cannot be rejected simply because
it offends one's sensibilities -- because the "free will" position is no
better.
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