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gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:

>> > After all, what Christ said in Luke 10 is very easy to understand.
>> > It is quite hard for many to accept, because it enunciates facts
>> > which many refuse to believe.
>> >
>> > 1) God knows what one would do under different conditions.
>>
>> Which doesn't imply any freedom. Just the opposite, in fact:
>> People's wills are bound by these "conditions" they find
>> themselves "under".
>
> Another assertion. Prove it. That is, prove that they would
> not have freely willed it.

Your verse says that the Sidionese are unrepentant. And they
will remain unrepentant until/unless God takes action, in
which case they will become repentant. So their "choice
for Jesus" is entirely dependent upon God's action. These
people aren't free to decide one way or the other. If
God decides He wants them to believe, then He does
miracles there. If not, He refrains.


>> > 2) The unregenerate would repent under some conditions.
>>
>> And if your God, Who says "What more could I do", doesn't
>> provide these conditions, is He lying or just a monster?
>
> More unfounded "logic?" NO.
>
> God can't do the exact same miracles everywhere.

Why not? You said He could do anything "possible". If
it's "possible" to change water into wine in Canaan, then
why isn't it "possible" to do it in Sidon?



> There are obviously some that just
> will not repent.

So they don't have free will. Their wills are bound
by Satan and they can't repent.


> Glad to see you don't answer the argument at all, no attempt.
> I wonder why?

You wonder why you don't see the answer, I guess is what you mean.


> You know, the argument that Christ used; that He was upbraiding
> them because they would not repent, when others would have
> repented.

"Would" is subjunctive for "will". They _will_ not repent.
What's wrong with their wills? Answer: They are not free.

Bart

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Matthew Johnson wrote:
> In article <3C54518B-B359-CA27-F7E3-BFED76F0B20E@srcbs.org>,
> Helmut Richter says...
>
> >lsenders@hotmail.com:
>
> >> the essentials of faith which all Christians must
> >> accept. Briefly they were: (1) the inerrancy of the
> >> Scriptures, (2) the deity of Christ, (3) His virgin
> >> birth, (4) His substitutionary atonement, and (5) His
> >> physical resurrection and future bodily return.
>
> >(1) is not obvious either from the Scriptures or from early
> >Church decisions, at least if a narrow understanding of