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lsenders@hotmail.com writes:
>Stephen M. Adams wrote:
>
>>
>> As has been stated here many times, the Scriptures teach neither
>> 'sola scriptura' (as defined above) NOR total depravity.
>>
>Welp, I beg to differ. When one isn't carrying a torch for his or her
>specific denomination, then it really isn't that hard to see.

Actually, it is. I discovered that 'Sola Scriptura' (as defined
in my article) is not itself scriptural when I was in a church
that taught exactly that. I demonstrated in my article that the
Scriptures *reject* Sola Scriptura.

>As for sola scriptura, do away with and all you are left with is
>relativism.

Since Sola Scriptura (as defined in my article) is self-contradictory,
it really doesn't matter what the result of discarding it is. It has
to be discarded since a) it contradicts itself and even worse, b) it
is itself not supported by Scripture.

The major doctrines of Christianity are NOT taken solely from the
Scriptures, but from the rich tradition of the Church.

I have a lot less problem with the Lutheran position - show me, from
the Scriptures, that I am wrong, and I'll change. After all, that's
how I became Orthodox - by reading the Scriptures.

>Basically, to dismiss both of these doctrines place one exactly at the
>same presuppositional level as non-believers.

No. It places one in concord with the Scriptures.

I'll leave the argument to the thread on TD that Gary is Matthew
are involved in.

-Stepehn
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In article <116.36.21.05.138723000@srcbs.org>, lsenders@hotmail.com says...

>Gary McNees wrote:
>
>> The Calvinists see no error, no harm, no problem, in
>> teaching that God actually hates (savingly) most of His creatures.
>
>This is the exact same line of argumentation of those who wish to see
>an end to capital punishment. You both share in the very same
>presuppositional base.
>
>The truth of the matter is, capital punishment establishes a higher,
>not a lower, view of man. Man is so dignified, so worthy, that to
>murder a man is equally worthy of the murder to forfeit his own life.
>It is the great high value of man that necessitates captial punishment.

>Contrary the biblical position, man cannot be reformed.

Are you trying to speak like a lawyer, using the accusative absolute?
You came out with somthing that contradicts your own beliefs!

More important, if YOU were right, Christ would not have said to the
woman taken in adultery, "Go and