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In article , Gary says...
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>"Stephen M. Adams" wrote in message
>news:143.48.18.05.716355000@srcbs.org...
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>> "Gary McNees" writes:
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>> The problem comes in that nothing that we currently have was written
>> down until long after Jesus died and rose from the dead. Even the
>> most conservative dating puts Mark earliest, some time in the 60's,
>> with John in the 90's. More likely are around 70 to 110. And the
>> extant copies of those (that are reasonably intact) are much later.
>>
>> If you claim to trust the Scriptures, then you must put your trust
>> in those who wrote them much later, those who preserved and copied
>> those writings, and those who compiled the canon.
>>
>Steve, sorry for the long delay. I have been very busy with other
>things.
>
>I guess I have a different view of Scripture and all other writings.

I think Steve knows that. I know I do. But what puzzles me is why you would
think that your "different view" is supported by Scripture. It is not.

>Although it is true that some of the books of the NT were written
>some time "after the fact," I take it that God "brought to their
>remembrance" the truth. (E.g..
>John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will
>send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your
>remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.)
>
>I take this to be a promise to those who actually wrote the Bible, the NT.

But, why, oh why, isn't it obvious that you are reading these words out of
context? Who was Christ speaking to when He said this? Were the NT writers even
among them? Only some of them were. But Paul, Luke, James and Jude were not.

No, the context shows that He had in mind ALL the disciples then present, NOT
just the NT authors. And He was guaranteeing that the Spirit would make firm in
them ALL the teachings, not just the written teachings.

>Since the various "church fathers" did not agree on all that they taught, I
>believe that they were not so "inspired" as were the writers of the NT.

Did Steve ever claim that they were? Did I? NO. This is just a "red herring".


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Bart Goddard wrote:
> gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:
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>>>The Calvinist God at least promises that the "evil"
>>>has been worked out for our eventual good.
>>
>>That does not excuse the one doing the evil.