In article <134.05.19.05.159680000@srcbs.org>, lsenders@hotmail.com says...
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>Stephen M. Adams wrote:

>> Despite your claims in another post - there is NO magesterium in the
>> Orthodox Church.

We do not normally _use_ the word 'magisterium', and neither in the Roman Church
nor in ours does it have anything to do with the relation between clergy and
laity. In fact, I can find nothing in the Catholic Encyclopedia article on
'magisterium' (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15006b.htm) that confines the
teaching authority of Tradition to the clergy.

>Come now. Let us be reasonable. I was not equating you to the RC
>system, but rather comparing you. How many times has Matthew stated
>that true interpretation come only from the magistrateum of the OC.

Never. For crying out loud, Loren, how can you dream of discussing a topic
knowledgeably when you can't even get the word right? It is 'magisterium', NOT
'magistateum'.

>How many times has it been said that the individual cannot have a
>revealing of the truth apart from it being accepted by ecclesiastical
>orders of the OC.

This is not what I ever said. Where are you getting this from? Is this from
Clendenin, or is it just yet another of your many, tiresom misreadings?

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In article <174.03.14.05.789037000@srcbs.org>, Bob Felts says...
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[snip]

>> This is a strange definition of free will. Because you cannot will
>> to fly (or rather since we need to keep a careful difference between
>> willing to do, and actually doing), you don't have free will?
>
>Notice what you did.

The failure to notice is yours, not his.

> You confused "inability to carry out" (i.e. I
>cannot fly) with "inability to will".

No. You cannot choose what is beyond your power. You can only wish it. But this
is a different sense of the word 'will'.

>I can will to fly, but I cannot fly.

That is why it is more accurate to say "I can WISH to fly", NOT "I can will to
fly".

>God cannot will to change His nature.

Not 'cannot', but DOES not.


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>And how do you know this? Chapter and verse, please. In some book
>other than the imagination of Gary, chapter 7, verse 16.

Your habit of resorting to such snide comments