victorthecleaner@gmail.com wrote:

>> "Doctrine" means "teaching". If we're teaching correctly, then
>> we are preaching the Word. And it is the preaching of the Word
>> which creates faith in the hearer.
>
> Hi Bart. Can you cite that? It sounds familiar...

Rom.10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have
not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom
they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it
is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that
preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith,
Lord, who hath believed our report?

17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

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In article <134.05.19.05.159680000@srcbs.org>, lsenders@hotmail.com says...
>
>Stephen M. Adams wrote:

>> Despite your claims in another post - there is NO magesterium in the
>> Orthodox Church.

We do not normally _use_ the word 'magisterium', and neither in the Roman Church
nor in ours does it have anything to do with the relation between clergy and
laity. In fact, I can find nothing in the Catholic Encyclopedia article on
'magisterium' (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15006b.htm) that confines the
teaching authority of Tradition to the clergy.

>Come now. Let us be reasonable. I was not equating you to the RC
>system, but rather comparing you. How many times has Matthew stated
>that true interpretation come only from the magistrateum of the OC.

Never. For crying out loud, Loren, how can you dream of discussing a topic
knowledgeably when you can't even get the word right? It is 'magisterium', NOT
'magistateum'.

>How many times has it been said that the individual cannot have a
>revealing of the truth apart from it being accepted by ecclesiastical
>orders of the OC.

This is not what I ever said. Where are you getting this from? Is this from
Clendenin, or is it just yet another of your many, tiresom misreadings?

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lsenders@hotmail.com:

> the essentials of faith which all Christians must accept. Briefly they
> were: (1) the inerrancy of the Scriptures, (2) the deity of Chris