Gary McNees wrote:

[...]

>
> I have found that only Calvinists believe that a man can be made
> responsible for that to which he cannot respond!
>


18 So then he has mercy on whomever he chooses, and he hardens the
heart of whomever he chooses.
19 You will say to me then, "Why then does he still find fault? For who
can resist his will?"
20 But who indeed are you, a human being, to argue with God? Will what
is molded say to the one who molds it, "Why have you made me like this?"
[Rom 9, NRSV]

> And I have seen here on this list that indeed the Calvinists do believe
> that what ever they think God might have said, it is RIGHT because
> God said it.
>

If God says something, that means it isn't right?

> If, indeed, God says a thing, it is RIGHT and good. But even God cannot
> just say anything and thereby make it right.
>

Really? Against what standard are you measuring God?

> Imagine, because God is God it is right for Him to do anything!
>

No, if God does it, it is right.

> The Calvinist God is not limited by His perfect nature. This God
> can lie, and legislate that good is evil, and that evil is good.
>

And just where do Calvinists say that?

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Stephen M. Adams wrote:

> wrf3@stablecross.com (Bob Felts) writes:
> >Stephen M. Adams wrote:
> >> wrf3@stablecross.com (Bob Felts) writes:
>
> >> >There were divisions in the Church long before the Protestants came
> >> >along, were there not?
> >>
> >> Yes, and the vast majority of them caused by private interpretation of
> >> Scripture without reference to the traditional teachings of the
> >> church.
> >
> >Let's go back to a post you made to s.r.c.b-s on 12/8/04, in which you
> >wrote to Matthew Johnson:
> >
> > I've read Augustine - and my reaction to things like "On
> > Predestination" were seminal in my discovery of the Orthodox
> > Church...
> >
> >You were not Orthodox, you became Orthodox, but you did so based upon
> >your evaluation of the evidence. So it seems to me that you used the
> >very principle you decry.
>
> I disagree. I didn't single-source my information and understanding.
> Rather, I looked to what the church taught from the earliest times.
> The Scriptures clearly say that the *Church* is the pillar and ground
> of the truth.
>

So? You still had to independently evaluate the evidence -- you had to
reach the decision that one particular branch of Christendom was<