Harbor Oaks Hospital

A psychiatric hospital in eastern Detroit area. Serves adults, adolescents, and children with psychiatric problems. Accepts referrals nationwide. Articles, fact sheets, assessments covering behavioral health topics.

Highfields Family Health Services

For individuals and families seeking options to help them: stabilize difficult behaviors, avoid hospitalization or other forms of out-of-home placement. Lansing and Adrian.

Insight - The Recovery People

Providers of mental health and substance abuse treatment services in Michigan since 1965. Offers links to on-line support group resources in Michigan.

Jenison Psychological Services

A full service mental health practioner serving Western Michigan. Offers individual adult, child, and family psychotherapy, counseling and assessment services.

Maple Clinic

Traverse City and Kalkaska. A private outpatient facility offering supportive and therapeutic services to children, adolescents, adults and their families.

Mental Health Association in Michigan

United Way Agency providing advocacy on behalf of the mentally ill. Non-partisan, established in 1937.

Michigan Association of Community Mental Health Boards

Trade association for community mental health in Michigan.

Michigan Association of Infant Mental Health

An organization of individuals who are devoted to nurturing and strengthening relationships between infants and their caregivers.

Michigan Crisis Response Association

Resource site for Critical Incident Stress Management and Debriefing Teams. Team registration. Teams that use the Jeffrey Mitchell model.

Michigan Department of Community Health

Provides access to health statistics, birth and death certificates, services for the elderly, mental health programs, and community public health.

Gary McNees wrote:

[...]

>
> I have found that only Calvinists believe that a man can be made
> responsible for that to which he cannot respond!
>


18 So then he has mercy on whomever he chooses, and he hardens the
heart of whomever he chooses.
19 You will say to me then, "Why then does he still find fault? For who
can resist his will?"
20 But who indeed are you, a human being, to argue with God? Will what
is molded say to the one who molds it, "Why have you made me like this?"
[Rom 9, NRSV]

> And I have seen here on this list that indeed the Calvinists do believe
> that what ever they think God might have said, it is RIGHT because
> God said it.
>

If God says something, that means it isn't right?

> If, indeed, God says a thing, it is RIGHT and good. But even God cannot
> just say anything and thereby make it right.
>

Really? Against what standard are you measuring God?

> Imagine, because God is God it is right for Him to do anything!
>

No, if God does it, it is right.

> The Calvinist God is not limited by His perfect nature. This God
> can lie, and legislate that good is evil, and that evil is good.
>

And just where do Calvinists say that?

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bimms@juno.com wrote:

>
> But a true Biblical understanding would notice two things:
> 1. First, a non-regenerated person is free to do evil, and does so with
> a vengeance, so much so that
> the theoretical option of doing good never occurs and has never
> occurred in the entire history of man.

Why o why do people like so much to contradict Scripture?

Matthew 7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto
your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give
good things to them that ask him?

Gary

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Gary McNees wrote:

> Bart Goddard wrote:
> > gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Faith is not a "good work."
> >
> >
> > You need a verb. The statement better reads
> > "Having faith is not a good work". Then we
> > all want to know: Is it, then, a bad work?
> >
> > Bart
>
> Since God says that faith is not a work, I take this
> to mean that faith is not a work.

Where does God say that faith is not a work? It very well can be.