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>
>
> Stephen M. Adams wrote:
> > lsenders@hotmail.com writes:
>
> > >That is semi-Pelagianism.
> >
> > You just can not avoid calling us names, can you?
>
> It is not name calling. It is classification. To
determine it to be
> antagonistic in nature could be thought of along the same
lines as
> though who shake a finger at an expositor, presupposing
that his sermon
> was directed to them personally when in fact it is a moral
prompting
> from within.
snip

So, Loren, all we would be doing if we started calling you
Satanists is "classification."

We would define what we mean by "Satanist," and included in
that definition would be stating that your god directly
causes moral evil and sin.

Although YOU keep denying that your "god" does this, and
that you teach this, we would be perfectly correct and
proper to continue asserting that you are nevertheless a
Satanist because we know that you do in fact teach these
monstrous doctrines?

Am I reading you correctly?

The actual teachings which denominate one a Pelagian or
semi-Pelegian are well known, and have been published on
this list I think. We do not agree with these.

Yet you continue to say we are "one" of these.

Gary



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"Bob Felts" wrote in message
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>
> Gary McNees wrote:
>
snip
> >
> > 2 Corinthians 6:1 We then, as workers together with him, beseech you
also
> > that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.
> >
>
> Look at the parallel passage in 1 Cor 15:10 where Paul shows how this
> works:
>
> But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace toward me has
> not been in vain. On the contrary, I worked harder than any of
> them--though it was not I, but the grace of God that is with me.

Loren, you cannot go to another place where in a PARTICULAR
case the Grace of God was not "received in vain," to prove that it
CANNOT be received in vain. Many, and in fact most, you and
I included, do receive a "whole lot" of God's Grace in vain.

Paul is not a fool. He is beseeching them NOT to receive the grace
of God in vain, which plainly shows that they could have done so.

Is it not an expression of God's Grace for Him to gather us together?
Yet, we read,
Matthew 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and
stonest them which are sent unto the