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In article <120.54.19.05.767761000@srcbs.org>, Bart Goddard says...
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>gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:
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>> After Adam fell, and died spiritually, he still heard the voice of
>> God, and responded to it.
>
>Yes. He _ran away_ from it. He had no choice, because he
>knew God was coming to kill him.

WHAT? How did you reach THIS bold conclusion? God was not coming to kill him,
not at all. I would love to see you TRY to support this bold, false conclusion
from Scripture, Bart;)

[snip]


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Subudcat se sibi ut haereat Deo
quidquid boni habet, tribuat illi a quo factus est.
(St. Augustine, Ser. 96)

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gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:


> I believe that the only thing we should believe without question
> is Scripture.

I'm pretty sure that is impossible. We are all masses of
untested (and unrealized) assumptions. No one can read
Scripture without couching it into his own world view.
Notice how the snake-handling cults "believe Scripture
without question."



> Whether eschatology is a waste of time, many would disagree.
> Basically the book of Revelation is a book of eschatology,

Not really. The first 7 or so chapters are letters to the
churches. Some of it recounts past history. I think if one
reads Revelation as "future history", then he has missed
the forest for the trees. The main message is "Even though
there are many trials, God's people will triumph." Too many
people take this word from God as scary, when it should be
read (foremost) as comfort.


Bart

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wrote in message
news:70229035-0303-A534-56F9-D5CED947353F@srcbs.org...
> Matthew Johnson wrote:
> > In article <4201715C-FC4E-6E32-9D7B-715D5B8150A0@srcbs.org>,
> > lsenders@hotmail.com says...

snip

> Rather Paul
>argues that it was "freely given" and that "it is God who justifies."
>Where is "free-will" herein then taught?

One RECEIVES a freely given gift by one's will. God
does not FORCE the gift on anyone.

Gary



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> I have the same concerns about rampant consumerism and how a base
> part of our nature is being deliberately encouraged and manipulated
> for the gain of money lovers (if