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wrf3@stablecross.com (Bob Felts) writes:
>Stephen M. Adams wrote:
>> lsenders@hotmail.com writes:
>> >Stephen M. Adams wrote:
>> >
>[...]
>>
>> >Security of the believer is taught in Rom 8.
>>
>> Others are covering this issues. My point is quite clear - 'justification
>> by faith alone' is clearly, unambigously and absolutely refuted by James.
>
>I can show you that it clearly, unambiguously and absolutely isn't
>refuted by James. We can begin with a question: what is the source of
>the work that you do to demonstrate your faith?

Are you admitting, then, that 'faith without works is dead' and that such
workless faith can not save? In other words, there is no salvation without
faith AND works?

That is quite clearly what James says.

>> It doesn't force us to do them, or even to believe. After
>> all, Paul says the that it's a *gift* that is given freely. If it's
>> a gift, it can be rejected, discarded, sold, etc.
>
>Was the resurrection of Lazarus a gift to him? Could Lazarus have
>rejected it?

There is absolutely no way to know the answer to this question.

Do you think that raising Lazerus from the dead is exactly equivalent
to salvation??

-Stephen
--
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Agreed. In fact the God of scripture is one we can hardly bear to look
at, without being
completely overwhelmed and falling dead at His feet. He is merciful in
revealing Himself
to us a little at a time, because the totality of His presence would
shatter us instantly.

Which makes the idea that we can make adequate legislative sacrifices
to Him or that
He's aligned politically with the Dems or Reps a bit silly.


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Bart Goddard wrote:

> wrf3@stablecross.com wrote:
>
> > All of us have a "wrong" Jesus. Some are less wrong than others.
> > Where does Jesus (who is the one who does the saving, after all) draw
> > the line?
>
> I would have thought my parent/child analogy was clear enough here. There
> is no "line" as if this were a matter of degree. This is a difference of
> type; the same sort of difference as betwee