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Shiawassee District Library

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Shiawassee District Library

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"Matthew Johnson" wrote in message
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> In article <131.16.15.05.590279000@srcbs.org>, Gary McNees says...
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> [snip]
>
> Which leads me to ask you a question: have you noticed the same thing
> that I have about the way "Calvinistic Scholars" quote Augustine? You
> may recall that I have claimed several times now in this thread, that
> they read his anti-pelagian works attentively, but neglect his
> anti-manichean. So have you noticed the same thing?

Well, to be truthful, I have previously just believed what they
said, because even some non-Calvinists seemed to agree with
their common excuse, that Augustine before age 63 was a
"free willer" but then became a non free willer. But George Smith
has published some of Augustines writings where he makes plain
what he means by a loss of "free will," and not only I but most
would agree with him. Augustine just does not believe in the
no free will of Calvinism.

> >As I said before, all the errors (I believe) that exist in both
> >Romanism and Orthodoxy, are miniscule by comparison to the atrocities
> >in Calvinism, that is, in my view.
>
> And except for whether or not these "miniscule errors" even exist at
> all in Orthodoxy, we are certainly agreed;)

As Will Rogers said, "We are all ignorant, only on different subjects."


Gary


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matthew_member@newsguy.com wrote:


>> Among the many things you
>>don't know is my philosophical position.
>
> He may not know it exactly, but having been a lost soul wandering in
> predestinarianist darkness for so long, he knows it in general terms.
> You cannot maintain your predestinarian position without sharing
> certain philosophical errors with Calvinists.

1. I am not a "predestinarianist".

2. So I guess this is another classic Matthew double standard.
It's OK for Gary to "read my mind" by infering things about
my position, but it's not OK for me to "read your mind" by
citing what you say about yourself.

Learn to read and think.

Bart

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"ruth" wrote in message
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> Bob Felts wrote:
> > Gary wrote:
> >
> > > "Bob Felts" wrote in message
> > > ne