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Bart Goddard wrote:
> gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:
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>>Well, Bart, we are on completely different "levels" then.
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>>IF saving faith is the same as obeying the 1st commandment then I
>>don't have saving faith. But then again, in my estimation, I have
>>never met a single person who has kept the 1st commandment. I know
>>that Jesus kept it but I know I don't.
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> I don't know anyone who has perfect faith either. That doesn't
> mean that the Spirit won't perfect it. I refrain, occasionally,
> from stealing, so, occasionally, I obey that commandment.
Good for you! Trouble is, God requires perfect obedience, doesn't He?
James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in
one point, he is guilty of all.
Seems to me that this means that just because you might keep a point
once in your life, this ain't enough!
>>Further the 1st commandment has no promise in it. Further again, all
>>"faith" is not the same. There is saving faith, and other kinds of
>>faith.
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> I'm speaking here only of saving faith.
To me God defines saving faith. God gives a promise of everlasting life,
not for keeping the 1st commandment, or any commandment, but by
receiving Christ by faith is what HE has done. By believing the Gospel.
>>I see faith not as doing something like keeping the 1st or any other
>>commandment, but rather, as receiving what God offers freely in the
>>gospel, by taking Him at His word, i.e., believing what He has said.
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> So? The issue is whether one gets that faith by an act of
> his own will or an act of God's will.
Gary
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In article <137.40.05.05.202160000@srcbs.org>, riprock@adres.nl says...
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>Matthew Johnson wrote:
>> In article <136.50.05.05.406681000@srcbs.org>, riprock@adres.nl
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>> When giving Plato quotes, it is good practice to give at least the
>page number
>> and the translation you are using. But it is even better to include
>the
>> Stephanus number.
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>That's funny, I couldn't find anything about Stephanus numbers at
>http://srcbs.org/faqs/
I didn't say you _would_ find it there; I said "good practice", NOT "mandated by
the FAQ".
The reason Stephanus numbers are such good practice is that they are the same no
matter which printed edition, which translation you use.
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