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In article <140A477E-1322-DA4A-1961-3327A9DDCCAA@srcbs.org>, Matthew
Johnson wrote:

-In article <1BFE665B-A1EE-3543-12EC-659DC4A66196@srcbs.org>, Ninure Saunders
-says...
->
->(~) The Character of Gossip
->George Sweeting
->
->The secret of a governable tongue is not self-control but Christ- control.
-
-Speaking of "self-control" and "Christ-control", if you knew even the first
-principles of either, you would refrain from bragging of the unnatural
-inclination Paul condemnds so clearly in Rom 1:18-28.

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(The follwing was written by Greg Gadow)

So let us put Paul's speech in context, shall we? I refer you to Romans
1:18-24a (sections in [] are
added by me to give clarity)



"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and
wickedness of men who by their wickedness suppress the truth. For what can
be known about God is plain to them [men who by their wickedness suppress
the truth], because God has shown it to them [men who by their wickedness
suppress the truth]. Ever since the creation of the world his invisible
nature, namely, his eternal power and deity, has been clearly perceived in
the things that have been made. So they [men who by their wickedness
suppress the truth] are without excuse; for although they [men who by
their wickedness suppress the truth] knew God they did not honor him as
God or give thanks to him, but they [men who by their wickedness suppress
the truth] became futile in their thinking and their [men who by their
wickedness suppress the truth] senseless minds were darkened. Claiming to
be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God
for images resembling mortal man or birds or animals or reptiles.
Therefore God gave them [men who by their wickedness suppress the truth]
up...."

Now maybe it is just my public education, but it seems to me that the
'they' whom God gave up refers to the undodliness and wickedness of men
who by their wickedness suppress the truth. That is the last object given
before Paul switches over to the third person plural pronoun, so by the
rules of the English language, that *must* be the "them" he is refering
to. And lets see... "men who by their wickedness suppress the truth",
could that also include men who by their wickedness (fear, hatred,
jealously and plain maliciousness) suppress the truth about God's
boundless love for His creation?

And how do we know that they are "men who by their wickedness suppress the
truth"? Very simply: They neither honor God as God or give thanks to him,
but instead are futile in their thinking, who ha