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Gary McNees wrote:

>
> Loren does not realize that one cannot understand any sentence
> unless one uses logic. Nor can they write one.
>
> A common logical proof that Christ died ONLY for the elect is the
> statement that Christ died for His sheep.
>
> This is pathetic! But used by some of the most reputable Calvinistic
> theologians!
>
Logic never saved any one. Nor did reasonablity. It is only because
men's minds were regenerated by the gracious act of God and thereby
enlightened as to the plan of redemption that men are saved.

Is Christianity logical. Like no other system. Is it reasonable? It
is not only reasonable, it is "I AM." But that does not detract for
once nano second in time that man is only able to creatively construct
his version of reality apart from God. Via God's enablement, man is
then able to receptively reconstruct God's revelation, both general and
special.

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Matthew Johnson wrote:
> In article <131.35.10.05.513678000@srcbs.org>, gpatton@bayou.com
says...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Gary McNees wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> Another logical fallacy. But one used very often by Calvinists.
> >Calvinists
> >> would like everyone to believe that if one is not a Calvinist,
they
> >REALLY
> >> don't believe Scripture.
> >
> >I am sure you got that idea about Calvinist from Calvinist you have
> >known. I wish you would not associate with those Calvinist, they
give
> >Calvinist a bad name.
>
> That they have. But they _are_ legion. What is more, the teaching of
"double
> predestination" (Denzingers' term for it, not their own) among
Calvinists is
> inescapable among those Calvinists who actually take the Institutes
seriously.
>
> > Develop a relationship with some sane Calvinist,
> >and you might find out that Calvinist are not devils but rather half
> >way decent human beings.
>
> Believe it or not, I can believe you here, George. But where my
belief and yours
> differs is that I believe these "falf way decent human beings" among
Calvinists
> are precisely those who do NOT take to heart the horrible teachings
found in the
> Institutes.
>
> >
> >> Further, the common Calvinist claim is that if
> >> one is not a Calvinist then they are an Arminian, which is
blatantly
> >false.
> >
> >I have never heard that one must choose between the two.
>
> Really? I have been hearing it from Calvinists for twenty years now.


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