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lsenders@hotmail.com writes:
>Stephen M. Adams wrote:
>> lsenders@hotmail.com writes:
>>
>> >But the other four place you in bed with the RC and with
>> >the Arminian so really, #4 is moot.
>>
>> It was once said that "Arminian" is a Calvinist cuss-word for those
>> who disagree with them....
>>
>Be that as it may or may not be, you still provided not even discussion
>but no answer to any of the 4 or 5 points.

Gary and Matthew have been dealing with them. But, to point one thing
out, so as to eliminate your complaint, one point is so simple to refute
that even Calvin never taught it: Limited Atonement.

According to the Scriptures:

and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours
only, but also for those of the whole world. [ 1 John 2:2 ]

So much for the 'L' point, which means we can safely ignore any system
that depends on it.

I suspect you'll treat this like you do James, and insist that it means
exactly the opposite of what the text says. For if you are a "5-point
Calvinist" this verse contradicts one of the base points of your system.

>I'm going to start a heresy sub thread dealing specifically with the
>Genesis record. You say you do not believe in a literal 6 day
>creation. Fine. I asked you to present some scientific observation
>which would support such a position. You've presented nothing, in
>fact, you've ignored the point all together.

This is not the place for an evolution vs. creation debate. I am not
a Darwinist. But I'm not a creationist, either. One or the other
(or some other option) wouldn't matter one whit to my theolgy.

Before I can give you evidence, tell me if you believe in a young or
old earth. I believe in an old earth. And I think the geological
and physical record supports that position.

>I ask you, then Stephen, why reply at all if you all you're going to do
>is drop little barbs as you have done above and then make yourself
>invisible.

If you paid even the slightest amount of attention to the Orthodox
Calendar (which I am sure you don't, since from other posts you have
made it clear that you don't even pay attention to Orthodox theology)
you would know that it was the end of Great Lent - and I stopped posting
because it was Holy Week, and besides wanting to keep my mind focused
on the passion, I had serious committments at church that I had to attend
to.

>If you're going to express a position, why do you, like
>Matthew, never defend it or actually make a clear statement as to what
>you actually do believe.

What a load of bologna. You've seen my website - specifically the
book. You could EASILY go to my parish website and see REAMS of
material there. You've studiosuly avoi