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> Gary McNees wrote:
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> > > Contrary to Arminianism, endless
> > > unbelief is the consequence of God passing over a sinner.
> >
> > Another clear truth of Calvinism, but of course this makes
> > God voluntaristic. There is nothing wrong with God not saving
> > those whom He could save. In fact there is nothing wrong with
> > God damning the many because He has withheld the only remedy
> > for them! Such is truly the God of Calvinism.
> >
> Again, you only evidence not only know knowing the Calvinist position,
> but having actually studied it. There's no need for me to reply to
> this.

What a cop-out! This is directly from the WCOF.

God "passes by" all the non-elect. And all who are thus "passed by"
are damned. This term "passed by" is a unipheunism for withholding
tht only remedy.

I know exactly what Calvinism is and teaches.
Don't lie and try to cover up what you believe.

> >
> > > Calvinism
> > > retains a God of mystery.
> >
> > No actually there in no mystery in the Calvinistic God.
> >
> Quite correct. We accept His declaration, "I AM THAT I AM."

Now you say this! But leave out what you said before.
Such deceit.

> > This God controls all wills. He determines that each man sins
> > as he does. There is not mystery, for Calvinism denies that
> > God can possibly know a free will choice, so there cannot
> > be any.
> >
> And here you display a failure to note the distinction between activity
> and passivity in the decree of God. Perhaps you should read the
> Westminster Confession of Faith.

Very funny. There is a marathon argument within the Calvinist
group about how much "free will" actually exists. And also
about any so-called "permission." Calvin denied free will and premission.

> > > As such, God is the efficient cause and
> > > author of faith but not of unbelief.
> >
> > He is the cause of unbelief also, for He must control all
> > things to conform with His will.
> >
> Again you reflect a failure of knowing what Calvinism actually teaches.

You are deceived and deceiving.

Unless, under Calvinism, God controlled the sins of all, He could
not be sure of Judas' betrayal, and hence His plan of redemption.

> SNIP
> >
> > > The electing decree of God,
> > > determined in eternity past, is efficacious and the origination of
> > > faith. Non-election is thus permissive and passive, merely
> allowing
> > > the individual to continue in his unbelief.