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The Sanilac Petroglyphs, Paleo-cryptozoology and Controversy

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"requires personal cooperation" is the same as "salvation by works".

Bob Felts
>>

No, we get the salvation from God, from the Grace obtained by the
Passion of Our Lord, not for our action; but being free we can choose
wheter to use it or not.

The word "power (exousia) in John 1:12

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of
God, even to them that believe on his name

is the same as in John 19:10

Then saith Pilate unto him, Speakest thou not unto me? knowest thou not
that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to release thee?



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"Matthew Johnson" wrote in
message
news:A5F36DCC-AC9D-4DB7-2717-2E790DFB9D94@srcbs.org...
> In article
<7C26D8BD-98B5-9861-772F-8E035E68B3CB@srcbs.org>, Gary
says...
> >But I agree that all of us are "influenced" by external
> >means.
> >It is just that what I am saying is that these external
> >things
> >do NOT DETERMINE the choice. IF they do DETERMINE
> >the choice, then the self has not determined it, and
hence
> >is
> >relieved of responsibility.
>
> But this is where you go astray: why, oh why, are you so
certain that there are
> only two possibilities here? Doesn't that ring of 'false
dichotomy' to you? It
> does to me.
>
> How can you a priori rule out the possibility that
'determination of choice' is
> not a JOINT action resulting from BOTH external influence
and internal
> inclination/decision making/etc?

Oh, I see what you mean, when Eve ate of the forbidden
fruit, the fruit, and the serpent made the choice conjointly
with her? :)

Gary



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In article , Ninure Saunders
says...
>
>(~) The Price of the Cross
>
>
>August 28, 2005
>
>Jeremiah 15:15-21
>Psalm
>26:1-8
>Romans 12:9-21
>Matthew 16:21-28
>
>The Price of the Cross
>
>What does it cost to be a follower of Jesus? Everything.

Including, of course, giving up bragging about passionate attachments, which you
are STILL doing! So after reading your post, we would be fully justified in
reaching the conclusion that no, you are NOT a follower of Jesus.


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Subducat se sibi ut haereat Deo
quidquid boni habet, tribuat illi a quo factus est.
(St. Augustine, Ser. 96)