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Al Smith writes:
>>>I put it to you
>>>>that the human race is a chaotic system
>>
>> That it may be. But so what? Your premise (that it cannot be predicted) is
>> false. Appending to it true statements doesn't help you.
>
>So you can predict the evolution of chaotic systems? Great. Tell
>me when the next major hurricane is going to hit New Orleans.

At best, with such complex systems, at THIS point, we can do no more
than provide statistical analysis - similar to the 'chance for rain'
that is given for a specific day (basically, the statistical chances
of rain given similar conditions in the past).

For the moment, our abilities to make such predictions are limited by
our ability to gather and analyze information. It may well be that
some day we CAN do this - and even control it.

If we're talking quantum mechanics, then it's a different thing
altogether, as the problem there has to do with the uncertainty
principle and the problem of measuring smaller and smaller things.

In both cases, God has no such limitations. See below.

>You're just demonstrating your ignorance. Chaotic systems cannot
>be predicted, by their inherent nature. Consequently, there is no
>omniscient mind, neither God's nor anybody else's.

This seems to be a 'frame of reference' problem. While none of US
has a priveleged frame of reference, God does. He's outside of what
we know of time and space. Thus, he is not bound by relativity
(general or special), the uncertainty principle, quantum mechanics
or any of the other 'rules' (or theories) of the universe.

>The idea of omniscience is a human concept

So is chaos theory. And time. &c. But God is not governed by the
universe, God governs the universe. He created it after all.

-Stephen
--
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soulbluesoul wrote:
> Stephen, offering the most extreme revisionist history ever says:
>
>
>>Hardly the case. Look at google. She left after being refuted.
>
>
> She blasted all of you off the planet. She left because of family
> health problems. Otherwise she'd still be here dismantling your
> specious trinitarian pleading. Off the planet I tell ya.
>
>
>>But the fact that you would even give an unproven opinion on someone
>>else's thread here undermimes your credibility anyway.
>
>
>>Funny, I was thinking of the fact that *I* had thrashed you.
>
>
> LOL. WE didn't even debate. The only thrashing you did was thrashing