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lsenders@hotmail.com wrote:
> Gary McNees wrote:
>
>
>>But all are lost by refusing God's grace.
>>God says, "I will DRAW ALL MEN TO ME."
>
>
> Actually, He "invites" all men but only calls those whom have been
> predestined according to His foreknowledge.

You are correct in stating that He invites all.
But gut He does far more than just inviting them. He DRAWS all.
Christ said it, and you deny it.

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men
unto me.


>>The Calvinist says, God does not draw all men,
>>HE only draws the elect.
>>God says, "I loved the WORLD."
>>The Calvinist says, "God did not love the world."
>>He loves only the elect.
>>
>
> God is love. No one here debates that.

Ah, but no one but a Calvinist would agree that God loves those
whom He "passes by" and refuses to allow to come to Christ.

If you mean that God gives temporal blessings to all then
I agree. But the fact that the Calvinist teaches that God did not send
His Son to die for all, that He ordains that all men are born such that
they are unable to come to Christ, even under the drawing of God, but
instead created them to be damned for eternity, then no one but a
Calvinist would agree that this is love.

> But God is not circumscribed
> by "love."

God defines LOVE in I Cor. 13. God IS Love. That is, His metaphysical
nature is love. All that God does is loving. God wills and acts
according to His nature, and that means that He is both just and loving.
And the God of Calvinism is neither just nor loving.

> As often noted before, the Greek will not allow the
> restructuring of the sentence to read, "Love is God."

I didn't note that you said this before. I think you are the FIRST to
assert this. I think EVERY version reads:

1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. (KJV)
1 John 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to
us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God
in him. (KJV)

1 John 4:8 He that loves not has not known God; for God is love.
1 John 4:16 And *we* have known and have believed the love which God
has to us. God is love, and he that abides in love abides in God, and
God in him. (DARBY)

1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God: for God is charity.
1 John 4:16 And we have known and have believed the charity which God
hath to us. God is charity: and he that abideth in charity abideth in
God, and God in him. (DOUAY)

1 John 4:8 He that loveth not, knoweth not God, for God is love.
1 John 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath for
us. God is love, and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth i