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In article <151.00.15.05.906619000@srcbs.org>, Gary McNees says...
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[snip]

>Yes, I do. I copied the verse from it. And that is the reason for
>the mispelling of "existance."

Then we have yet another mystery on our hands: why your hardcopy differs from
Sarah's, and even from all the online copies.

>> "All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even
>one
>> thing came into existence.
>
>The above verse is what is important to the question of Christ being
>made or created. Since ALL things came into existance through Him,
>He could not have come into existance.
>
>> What has come into existence 4 by means of him
>> was life, and the life was the light of men." John 1:3-4 NWT
>
>This next veree seem very strange. No version I have comes
>remotely close to it.


Don't be too shocked by it. The main difference is solely a matter of
punctuation in the Greek. That is why in another post, I pointed out that St.
Hilary read the same puncutation -- and yet still found this as support of the
Trinity.

It all depends on whether you punctuate as follows, which Metzger says is the
way everyone read it before Nicea:

PANTA DI AUTOU EGENNETO KAI XWRIS AUTOU EGENNETO OUDE EN.
hO GEGONEN EN AUTWi ZWH HN, KAI H ZWH HN TO FWS TWN ANQROPWN

which would read:

All things came through Him, and without Him nothing came to be.
What came to be in Him was life, and the life was the light of men.

Or do you punctuate as follows, which is how everybody read it after the Arians
started their blasphemy?

PANTA DI AUTOU EGENNETO KAI XWRIS AUTOU EGENNETO OUDE EN
hO GEGONEN. EN AUTWi ZWH HN, KAI H ZWH HN TO FWS TWN ANQROPWN

whihc would read:
All things came though Him, and without HIm nothing that came to be
came to be. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.

Really, neither supports the disastrous Christology of the JWs and the NWT.


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I wrote:

>Yes it is a guardian and promoter of that truth but if you are
implying
>that the church has authority to go beyond or add to what was written
>this is dangerously close to Mormon speak!

Stephen Adams wrote:

>On the contrary, the Scriptures support exactly my position. Not
>y