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In article <094.23.17.05.558390000@srcbs.org>, basicallyblues says...
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>>Another straw-man. Very few of us Trinitarians insist that you believe
>>it is a historical account. And if you have been reading before you
>>reply in such haste and anger, you should know that I am not one of
>>them.
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>Matthew it is YOU who post with haste and anger.

Anger yes, haste no.

> I guess I should
>inform you that I have received numerous personal emails from folks who
>think you are a hypocrite.

So what?

> I've been warned that you always resort to
>ad hominem, pettiness, and outright misinformation-

And you chose to believe _their_ misinformation. How predictable.

> especially when you
>are losing a debate- which you most certainly are here.

Again: I don't feel like I am losing. And I notice that even Bart agrees with
me.

> So you can say
>what you want but your conduct has been observed.

Or mis-observed. As often.

> Although I have
>regrettably imitated YOUR tactics to a much lesser degree, it is you
>who is guilty of what you accuse me of. Luke 6:42 pertains to you if it
>ever pertained to anybody.
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>>the point of my earlier rebuttal was that a
>>'supernatural vision' IS of reality.
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>Elijah and Moses were not there in person on that mountain.

Yes, they were. This is obvious from the context, especially when comparing the
synotpic accounts. For the Markan account does not even USE the word 'vision' to
describe it. WHy should it? It is REALITY.

How _could_ it be an 'unreal vision', when Christ Himself calls the whole
'vision' "seeing the Kingdom of God come in power" (Mar 9:1)?

No, Blue, I am not losing these arguments. Not at all.

> They were
>in the grave then and still are today.

Wrong again. See Mar 9:1-13.


>>4) You must believe in the trinity to be a Christian and be saved
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>>That is easier to do than you seem to realize: for Christ's command
>was:
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> > Go therefore and make disciples of all nations,
> >baptizing them in THE name [NB: one name, not 3]
> >of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit
> >teaching them to keep ALL that I have commanded you
> >And lo, I am with you to the end of the age (Mt 28:19-20)
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>>Not only does this show us Trinity, because of the ONE name of Father,
>>Son and Holy Ghost,
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>(by the way there are some strong arguments this verse may be spurious.
>I'm not saying I believe that but just find it interesting.)
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>Anyway, there is no trinity in that verse.

Yes, there is. "Father, Son and Holy SPirit