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In article <81909619-2E21-BDF3-50E3-4C8E0A5B70E7@srcbs.org>,
lsenders@hotmail.com says...

>Matthew Johnson wrote:


>> The Church IS the New Israel. So your objection is
>> irrelevant and without merit.

>No where in the NT does Christ or the NT writers so teach that the
>Church inherits those unconditional covenants made with the believing
>remnant of Israel. How could they? The inheritance of the Church is a
>heavenly one, not one of a land & dynasty.

And on that one gross error, Loren, you have built your
entire house of cards. Watch it fall down now!

>2 Sam. 7:13 "He shall build a house for My name, and I will establish
>the throne of his kingdom forever.
>2 Sam. 7:14 "I will be a father to him and he will be a son to Me; when
>he commits iniquity, I will correct him with the rod of men and the
>strokes of the sons of men,
>2 Sam. 7:15 but My lovingkindness shall not depart from him, as I took
>it away from Saul, whom I removed from before you.
>2 Sam. 7:16 "And your house and your kingdom shall endure before Me
>forever; your throne shall be established forever." ' "

In case you haven't noticed, Loren, that "house and kingdom"
did NOT endure forever. That is why it was ALWAYS a mistake
for Israel to think that the promise was about "land and
dynasty". It was ALWAYS symbolic of the Church.

But you prefer the ancient mistake to the truth of the
Church. I wish I could say I was surprised.

[snip]


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Subducat se sibi ut haereat Deo
quidquid boni habet, tribuat illi a quo factus est.
(St. Augustine, Ser. 96)


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Throughout the bible, God is referred to in the singular tense. Yet in
Genesis 1:26 God is referred to in the plural sense.

And God said, "Let *us* make man in *our* image after *our*
likeness." (KJV)(NAB)

Then God said "And now *we* will make human beings; they will be like
*us* and resemble *us*. (GNB)

If the bible is literally and truly the "Word of God", as many
Christians believe, these words appear to say that God is a collection
of spiritual beings rather than a singular spiritual being. And if we
try to explain away the meaning of the plural pronouns, are we not
doubting the Word of God?

Bob S.

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peterzale@en.com wrote:
> I for one am pretty interested in what the guy experienced because,
> crazy as it sounds -- and to me it does sound crazy -- it also sounds
> kind