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In article <172.51.08.05.485312000@srcbs.org>, Gary McNees says..
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Gary!

Please fix the word-wrap in your NNTP client (newsreader). Without that,
far too few people will read your refutation below. They will not realize
how well you really have confuted Felts's errors.

One should not use more than 60 character width, to allow room for all
those '>' characters when quoted.

And don't use the TAB character. Use spaces instead.

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>What is clear is that you don't understand Rom. 9 or many other
>passages in Scripture. For if you did, you would not need to contradict so
>much of Scripture.

Yes, this is exactly what Calvinists do. It is tragic what delight they take in
this contradiction.


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Subducat se sibi ut haereat Deo
quidquid boni habet, tribuat illi a quo factus est.
(St. Augustine, Ser. 96)

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It might be helpful to understand Job's Oath of Innocence. I think a
proper resolution of the moral problem in the Book of Job lies in the
distinction between causal responsibility and moral blameworthiness
found in the enforcement mechanism of that oath. It opens up room for
a moral and legal defense for God. Although God is the author of
undeserved evil (Job 1:1; 2:3, 10; 42:11), that evil may be morally
necessary to bring the existence of God into doubt, sever the
connection between righteousness and reward and make the creation of a
completely selfless love of men and women for God possible. (Job
1:9-11) God's defense is necessity. All God has to do is testify as
to the overriding importance of selfless love. Part of the problem is
that Satan put God on trial (Job 1:9-11) and one of the implicit
restrictions of that trial is that God cannot explicitly give Job the
reason for evil in the world lest it give Job a reason to continue his
love for God and subvert the very purpose of the trial. Hence, God
can only hint at the existence of a defense in his two speeches. I
believe the allusions to Leviathan draw on Isaiah's understanding of a
final judgement and resurrection where God will answer all things.
(Isaiah 27-31) The following extract is from my online book
http://wwwb.bookofjob.org.

"The Oath of Innocence is an ancient legal device, found in
Babylonian , Hittite and Jewish legal codes. It is not found in
Egyptian legal codes, since Egyptian law was never codified. The word
of the reigning Pharaoh was the law. However, it is found in Egyptian
mythology in the Final Judgment described in The Book of the Dead.
So, it may have existed in the unwritten common law of Egypt.

The Oath of In